Sunday, March 20, 2005

Hina Azam, Idiot? (You bet)

From Hina Azam's "counter argument" to Amina Wadud's history making khutbah:
1) Women may write the Friday khutbas to be delivered by the khatib with proper attribution to the author. In my experience, imams are more than happy to have someone else do the work of putting together the khutba, and the practice of khatibs reading sermons written by others is well-known.

2) Women may deliver public lectures just prior to the khutba. The practice of a public talk between the adhan and the beginning of the khutba is found in much of the Muslim world and is an even more direct way than the above for women to communicate their ideas directly to the congregation. One idea for dual-language communities is that the talk delivered by the woman can be the basis for the khutba, which would essentially be a translation of it.

Of course any idiot can see that the second position negates the first. If a woman can give a speech prior to the khutbah, what is the justification for not hearing her voice during the khutbah? If she can the write it, isn't she in fact preaching? are they her thoughts being transferred?

this is yet another example of a failure to grasp simple logic. Hina, dear, lay off the Jesus juice.

3 Comments:

Blogger sarah said...

Hina Azam is brilliant.

you're taking her entire article out of context. The way I see it, the American Muslim Ummah's objection to Amina Wadud was not her giving the Khutbah, but instead her leading the Salat itself, I read Hina's article, that was the main point of it.

Peace out :)

8:25 PM  
Blogger crossfader72 said...

you've just contradicted Azam's article, silly.

8:46 PM  
Blogger Hmmm said...

This isn't a breakdown in logic - juristically, the khutbah is considered part of the ibadat of prayer, whereas bayans are non-prayer specific - a khutbah of course being a type of bayan which has extra strictures associated with it (if you want to read up on it, discourses such as Mufti Taqi Usmani's book on the language of the Friday Prayer according to Hanafi fiqh methodology). The logic fits as she was predicating those comments on utilising a traditional axiomatic system of jurisprudence, where such differentials exist.

4:59 PM  

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